Citizens, Democracy and brexit
Key points A - H about proposals to "allow"
the electorate a vote (referendum) on the final
negotiated terms – "the deal"
Recent news, collated April/May 2018
Notes (below) are intended to be
read as part of the text of this overview
A. Support for a new "brexit" ballot growing among
public and politicians of different parties. (1, 2, 3)
B. MPs will be able to force Theresa May to accept a
fresh referendum on Brexit in a showdown vote as early
as the autumn, a minister has conceded. In a surprise
admission, Steve Baker said the crucial vote on the exit
deal would not – as expected – be a
“take-it-or-leave-it” choice, because “parliament can
always seek to amend motions”. The Brexit minister
agreed a possible amendment would be for parliament to
only approve the withdrawal agreement struck with the EU
“subject to a second referendum”. See "Brexit minister
reveals how MPs can force Theresa May to accept fresh
referendum. The Independent 21 April 2018" (4a, 4b).
C. Referendum trigger: There is no legal basis nor
justification to rely on opinion poll results as a basis
for the decision to hold a ballot on "the deal". The
arguments for such a referendum are strong and therefore
it should be held. By tradition and recent practice it
is Parliament's responsibility and within its power to
formulate and enact a national referendum such as this
(5, 6).
D. Scots could tip the brexit balance – here's one
way .... by supporting a new brexit referendum.
"The SNP has argued that the UK Government’s EU
Withdrawal Bill amounts to a “power grab” by
Westminster, but Dolan wrote: “Without Brexit there is
no ‘power grab’. We should focus on the main event –
Brexit and not on the consequences. We should be
campaigning for a second Brexit referendum. After all 62
per cent of the Scottish electorate voted to remain in
the EU.” "(7a)
"Tactical and strategic advantages also present
themselves for Sturgeon. Given that 62% of voters in
Scotland backed Remain, fronting a campaign to demand a
Brexit vote would be popular and chime with the
majority. By contrast, Sturgeon is currently on the
wrong side of public opinion on indyref 2." (7b)
E, F, G, H: Legal and democratic aspects of "brexit"
E. Act of Parliament (year 2011) could enforce a
referendum on "the deal" for leaving EU. The 2011
‘referendum lock’, introduced by David Cameron, prevents
any significant change to relations with the EU without
the public’s say (8a). "A new referendum on the
relations between the UK and the EU is almost certainly
required under the European Union Act 2011. This Act
created a ‘referendum lock’, which requires a referendum
before an amendment of the EU Treaties can be ratified."
(8b, 8c).
F. Article 50 application to leave EU CAN be
cancelled: brexit is NOT a one way ride without brakes
or emergency exit! This has been confirmed by senior
officials of the European Union, for example Donald
Tusk.
Lord Kerr*, a former UK ambassador to the European
Union, stated in late 2017 that Brexiters in May’s
cabinet were suggesting Brexit was irreversible and
thereby misleading the public. Also he said that the UK
could opt to reverse Brexit up to the moment we leave,
even if a date for the country’s departure from European
Union were added to the withdrawal bill, as Theresa May
plans.
*John Kerr, Baron Kerr of Kinlochard is a former
diplomat who drafted article 50 of the Treaty on
European Union, the article which was used to inform the
EU of the UK's intention to leave (9).
G. MPs' proposals for a new referendum on the brexit
terms.
The members of Parliament Gareth Thomas and Geraint
Davies have in the House of Commons each put forward
proposals that before leaving the EU a referendum shall
be held on the terms negotiated for leaving. One or more
similar proposals have been made in the House of
Lords. Numerous MPs' amendments to the Withdrawal
from EU bill have contained proposals that a referendum
of this kind shall be held.
H. Petitions.
Citizens may put forward and vote in on-line
petitions to Parliament and Government. Petitions which
attract more than one hundred thousand endorsements
("signatures") are entitled to receive an official
written reply. The authorities are NOT obliged to grant
a request for a referendum, even if some millions of
citizens have endorsed such a proposal. Some examples
follow:
Petition: Hold a referendum on the final Brexit deal.
Her Majesty's government, in rejecting the call for a
people's ballot, wrote, "Both Houses of Parliament will
have the opportunity to vote on the final agreement
reached with the EU before it is concluded. This will be
a meaningful vote which will give MPs the choice to
either accept the final agreement or leave the EU with
no agreement." https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/200004
A related petition is entitled "Parliament's vote on
the Brexit deal must include an option to remain in the
EU" and reads, "A lesser of two evils choice between a
bad deal and no deal is not acceptable. Our country
deserves better than Hobson's choice, and our MPs should
be allowed to vote with their conscience to deliver what
they believe is best for the country." This petition
passed the threshold of 100,000 voter endorsements and
therefore received a reply from the government. A debate
in Parliament about this proposal has been announced
(see date at Petition web site). https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/205169
NOTES, REFERENCES, LINKS
1. 'People's Vote' Brexit campaign group calls for
referendum on final EU deal
Compared with other places, getting a referendum
about ANY matter of public concern is very difficult. As
reported, both the Conservative and Labour parties have
ruled out a second referendum. In some countries quite
similar to ours a major improvement over our UK
democracy is that a very large number of voters can
refer a serious proposal to the whole electorate and
obtain a referendum-ballot, WITHOUT having to beg the
government to allow this. Examples: see http://www.iniref.org/record24.html
2. Pro-Europe Labour backbenchers are fighting to
keep the pressure on Jeremy Corbyn to reconsider his
opposition to membership of the European Economic Area,
as new polling for the People’s Vote campaign (see 3
below) confirms majority support for a vote on the
Brexit deal. 11 May 2018
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/11/labour-backbenchers-urge-jeremy-corbyn-to-back-remaining-in-eea
3. The row over Jeremy Corbyn’s approach to Brexit
has exploded after five MPs from the party’s northern
heartlands broke ranks and openly demanded a new
referendum on the UK’s withdrawal deal. The MPs from the
Northeast – which heavily backed Leave in the 2016
referendum – said a new vote is essential because the
true nature of Brexit is only just emerging.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-brexit-latest-jeremy-corbyn-eu-referendum-uk-mps-a8343746.html
4a. Brexit minister reveals how MPs can force Theresa
May to accept fresh referendum https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-second-referendum-eu-vote-theresa-may-mps-minister-steve-baker-a8313111.html
4b. Editorial, The Independent 21 April 2018
"Credit, therefore, is due to Steve Baker, minister
of state at the Department for Exiting the European
Union. As we report today, when he found himself before
a House of Lords select committee this week he conceded,
without any thumbscrews or bright lights, the
possibility of a fresh referendum on the terms of our
departure from the EU. (...) Indeed, Mr Baker was
helpful enough to suggest that a vote on the deal would
need to be held as soon as possible after the conclusion
of talks with Brussels in the autumn. That would allow
MPs to pass legislation for a referendum before the
leaving date of 29 March 2019." http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/editorials/second-referendum-brexit-minister-steve-baker-a8315826.html
5. Many millions of UK citizens want to decide in a
referendum about the "brexit" terms (Spring 2018, much
evidence from opinion surveys) but we have been deprived
of our democratic right to launch this sort of
public-issue ballot. http://www.iniref.org/record25.html
6. Are voters changing their minds about brexit? John
Curtice (Prof), public opinion ace, struggles in his
analysis concerning the question, "is there any
consistent evidence that support for having another
referendum has increased?" https://whatukthinks.org/eu/are-voters-changing-their-minds-about-brexit/
7a. Paul Hutcheon: backing a Brexit referendum could
get the SNP off the constitutional hook 6 5 2018
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/16207866.Sturgeon_told__Put_new_EU_vote_before_independence/
The SNP has argued that the UK Government’s EU
Withdrawal Bill amounts to a “power grab” by
Westminster, but Dolan wrote: “Without Brexit there is
no ‘power grab’. We should focus on the main event –
Brexit and not on the consequences. We should be
campaigning for a second Brexit referendum. After all 62
per cent of the Scottish electorate voted to remain in
the EU.”
7b. Sturgeon told: Put new EU vote before
independence 7 5 2018
http://www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/16207858.Paul_Hutcheon__backing_a_Brexit_referendum_could_get_the_SNP_off_the_constitutional_hook/
"Tactical and strategic advantages also present
themselves for Sturgeon. Given that 62% of voters in
Scotland backed Remain, fronting a campaign to demand a
Brexit vote would be popular and chime with the
majority. By contrast, Sturgeon is currently on the
wrong side of public opinion on indyref 2."
8a. Brexit: Second referendum required before Britain
can leave the EU, legal challenge claims.
"The 2011 ‘referendum lock’, introduced by David
Cameron, prevents any significant change to relations
with the EU without the public’s say. ... Dominic
Grieve, the former Tory Attorney General, said the case
‘raises an important constitutional issue’. ... The law
requires a further referendum before Brexit can go
ahead, say campaigners who are mounting a legal
challenge to slam the brakes on the UK’s withdrawal from
the European Union." Saturday 10 March 2018 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-second-referendum-lock-legal-challenge-david-cameron-dominic-grieve-a8250266.html
8b. Pavlos Eleftheriadis 6 July 2016 Second
referendum probably legally required. https://infacts.org/second-referendum-probably-legally-required/
8c. Mark Elliott. Does the law require a second
referendum before Brexit takes effect? https://publiclawforeveryone.com/2017/05/02/does-existing-legislation-require-a-second-referendum-before-brexit-takes-effect/
9. Brexit is reversible even after date is set,
says author of article 50 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/10/brexit-date-is-not-irreversible-says-man-who-wrote-article-50-lord-kerr
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